Saw Comparison: Knew Concepts, Green Lion, Gorbet

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Re: Saw Comparison: Knew Concepts, Green Lion, Gorbet

Postby Albert R » Mon Aug 28, 2017 11:28 am

WOW! nicely done!
How does it cut? Does it track well?
The handle looks sharp!

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Re: Saw Comparison: Knew Concepts, Green Lion, Gorbet

Postby Jim J » Wed Aug 30, 2017 1:35 am

Thanks, I need to do a little more work.
The handle end clamp slot was kinda difficult to get to.
I ended up using a hacksaw and cut the slot a bit too wide.
Trying to tighten it down I ended up cracking it.
Heh, shoulda taken it to a darker blue in tempering.
Ill come up with a fix somehow.
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Re: Saw Comparison: Knew Concepts, Green Lion, Gorbet

Postby Jim J » Mon Sep 04, 2017 4:52 am

I fixed my screwup, added washers and nuts, :disgust: but saved the saw frame.
Seems to cut fine, better than the cheap carp I been using.
Ill finish up the file work and post some more pics on a new thread if its okay.
Trying to not hijack your post.
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Re: Saw Comparison: Knew Concepts, Green Lion, Gorbet

Postby Albert R » Tue Sep 05, 2017 1:11 am

Please feel free to add to your heart's content! I for one enjoy seeing other's work and we can still compare saws if we feel like it!
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Re: Saw Comparison: Knew Concepts, Green Lion, Gorbet

Postby jhobson » Fri Dec 29, 2017 3:09 pm

We need a review of the new dremel:
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Re: Saw Comparison: Knew Concepts, Green Lion, Gorbet

Postby Chris A » Sat Dec 30, 2017 1:35 pm

I'll wait till it comes with a 2-stroke.
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Re: Saw Comparison: Knew Concepts, Green Lion, Gorbet

Postby ps_bond » Sun Dec 31, 2017 7:10 am

2 stroke would guarantee it wouldn't be used in Hatton Garden - it'd probably fall foul of the London Emissions Zone. Think I'll stick with the Hegner (which has issues with cutting metal, although it does it).
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Re: Saw Comparison: Knew Concepts, Green Lion, Gorbet

Postby jhobson » Sun Dec 31, 2017 10:38 am

Poetic justice: My facebook feed is now full of adverts for the dremel.
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Re: Saw Comparison: Knew Concepts, Green Lion, Gorbet

Postby jhobson » Sat Jan 06, 2018 4:40 pm

I usually use a small adjustable Groblet saw or a 300mm Cheapo. I dislike the clamping on the Groblet - I much prefer the simple nut and wingnut on the cheap saw. The Groblet is often just too small when cutting out large tsuba.
I do have a small adjustable cheapo which I thought I would pimp. The idea is to make it mid-size, not adjustable, and left-handed by switching over the wingnuts.
Cheap saw:
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It comes apart after removing some rivets, leaving lots of things to play with:
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Here is proof of concept bolted together (gold plated torx screws for bling) so I can take apart easy and fiddle-faddle. Unsprung:
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And with tensioned blade:

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And in use? It is really nice being able to use my left hand for tightening the nuts. But when cutting, the big nuts obscure the view - I don't understand how right-handers cope with this on the std saw! I need to do some thinking...or maybe just use it more and get to know it.
I think the new frame worked out OK (size, springiness) which I'm really relieved about as there are many hours of work in there despite it looking deceptively simple... I'm not ready to reveal why just yet. I can now move on the pimping the other components.
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Re: Saw Comparison: Knew Concepts, Green Lion, Gorbet

Postby Steve » Sat Jan 06, 2018 11:14 pm

But when cutting, the big nuts obscure the view - I don't understand how right-handers cope with this on the std saw!

For me, the obscured view is a convenient way of explaining the results :snooty:
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Re: Saw Comparison: Knew Concepts, Green Lion, Gorbet

Postby Chris A » Tue Jan 09, 2018 9:00 am

I was only thinking the other day, I would knock out the rivets on my trusty Eclipse PS of 40 years ownership and move the wing nuts from the left (when sawing) to the other side as they are constant nuisance for a right hander, except when tightening the blade.
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